Sunday, October 18, 2020

Conferences & Qualifications in DI Wrestling Had No Team Ever Dropped

 In a recent post, I came up with an extra 159 NCAA Division I wrestling programs that we would have on top of the 79 that we currently have (2020-2021 season) for a total of 238 programs, if no team had ever dropped their wrestling program.   

That's a lot of wrestling teams in NCAA Division I wrestling.   Can you imagine 238 teams?   What would that look like?  

Could we get away with only qualifying 32 or 33 wrestlers for the NCAA championships?   As of right now 33/79 is about 42%.  33/238 is about 14%.   In recent times out of the 79 teams we have, most qualify at least one wrestler every three years.   Sacred Heart & Davidson being the exceptions as of recent years.  

With 238 teams & only 33 qualifiers, there is going to be a much larger number of schools without qualifiers.  


I've came up with a few ideas.  None of them perfect. 

Right now we have 7 Conferences/Qualifiers in NCAA wrestling.  If you have each conference have 32 teams, that accounts for 145 teams, leaving 14 teams unaccounted for.   A 32 man bracket for each of the 7 conferences would make things simpler, but in this case you'd have to add two extra teams, so each conference would have 34 teams.  

That's if we kept things as they are. 

If you took the top eight qualifiers from each conference, that's 56 wrestlers per weight qualified, with 8 open Wildcard slots per weight.  

That'd make a 64 man bracket for the NCAA's.  Adding at least one if not two days to the tournament. 

I don't think anyone, coach, wrestlers, fans, would go for that. 

So Now what? 

7 Conferences/Qualifiers x 34 teams allots for all 238 teams that we would have. 

8 Qualifiers per conference ='s 56 Qualifiers per weight + 8 Wildcards per weight 

I would think we'd almost have to have another qualifier.   Like how some states for high school wrestling have sectionals & then Districts before state or some have Regionals & then sectionals before state?  Hell, some even have more than two.  

Two Regionals?  

Shame there isn't a eighth Conference/Qualifier.  That'd certainly make it easier.   If there were eight instead of seven, that'd make it a more workable number. 

You could take the top eight qualifiers in four of the Conferences/qualifiers for one regional. 

Problem is the other would only have three conferences/qualifiers left over. 

So we're looking at a 32 man bracket for one regional Vs a 24 man bracket for the other.  The only way to solve this problem it seems would be to take the eight Wildcards & put them into the other Regional, to make it a 32 man bracket.   Seems good on paper, until you factor in geography & costs.  

I said my idea had flaws in it & it does.  Still thinking out loud. 

What I have so far....

238 teams

7 Conferences/Qualifiers.  Each has 34 teams.   Each qualifies top 8 wrestlers for Regionals.  

That leaves 56 wrestlers qualified per weight with 8 wildcards selected per weight. 

Regional I  has 32 wrestlers from four Conferences per bracket 

Regional II has 24 wrestlers from three Conferences per bracket + 8 wildcards to make the 32 

Regional I & Regional II both qualify the top 8 for the NCAA tournament. 

And now would this be a problem?  

Before We ran into the problem of 64 Qualifies & adding a day or two being something coaches, wrestlers, fans & may I add administrators/athletic directors NOT going for.    

BUT...would 16 NCAA qualifiers be as much of a problem?  It potentially takes away a day.   Thus cutting costs?  I think some would be happy about this, but with only 16 NCAA qualifiers out of 238 teams, I can only imagine the negative backlash.  

So there you have two of my ideas & neither is perfect.  In fact, both are far from perfect but they're what I've came up with. 

Now where do you put the extra 159 teams? 

Well I've done it a couple of different ways & no matter how I do it, there are teams in conferences that make no sense.  Sort of how Little Rock in the PAC-12 at the time being, Geographically makes little sense.  

I think I did an ok job with exception to the BIG 12.   I cover the whole country, West to East, North to South & I know that would never fly for a qualifier.   So I don't know.

Here's what I came up with 


BIG 10 
Iowa
Penn State 
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Indiana 
Minnesota
Rutgers
Maryland
Illinois
Northwestern
Nebraska
Ohio State
Wisconsin 
Indiana State
Ball State
Notre Dame
Drake
Nebraska-Omaha
UW-Milwaukee
Marquette 
Dayton
Youngstown State
Duquesne
Villanova
Saint Francis
Lafayette
Delaware
Delaware State
Stony Brook
Marist 
Farleigh Dickinson
Monmouth
Seton Hall 

ACC
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Pittsburgh
Duke
Florida
Central Florida
Florida International
Florida A&M
Miami (Florida)
Stetson
South Florida
North Florida
Florida State
East Carolina
Elon
North Carolina A&T
Clemson
South Carolina State
Howard
William & Mary
Norfolk State
Villanova
James Madison
Liberty
Old Dominion
Hampton
Richmond
Virginia Commonwealth
George Washington
Georgetown
Syracuse
Wagner 

EIWA
American
Binghamton
Brown
Bucknell
Columbia
Cornell

Drexel
Franklin & Marshall
Harvard
Hofstra
Lehigh
Long Island 
Pennsylvania
Princeton
Sacred Heart
Army
Navy
Yale
Connecticut
Central Connecticut
Temple
Maine
Towson
Coppin State
Morgan State
Maryland Eastern Shore
Massachusetts
Boston U
Boston College
Dartmouth
Slippery Rock
Rhode Island U 
Colgate
New Hampshire

 
MAC 
Bloomsburg
Buffalo
Clarion
Central Michigan
Clarion
Edinboro
George Mason
Kent State
Lock Haven
Missouri
Northern Illinois
Ohio 
Rider
Southern Illinois-Edwardsville
Illinois State
Bradley
Southern Illinois-Carbondale
Western Illinois
Eastern Illinois
Illinois-Chicago
Chicago State
Little Rock
Western Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Miami (Ohio) 
Toledo
Akron
Bowling Green
Cincinnati 
Oakland
Missouri State
St Louis
Southeast Missouri State 
Wichita State 


PAC-12
Arizona State
Cal Poly
Cal State Bakersfield
Oregon State
Stanford
California Baptist

Grand Canyon 
Arizona
California
UCLA
USC
CSU-Fullerton
UC Davis
Northern Arizona
Portland State
Santa Clara
U of Pacific
UC Riverside
San Diego State
San Jose State
UC Santa Barbara
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU-Los Angeles
Long Beach State
CSU-Sacramento
CSU-Northridge
Boise State
Washington
Washington State
Nevada Reno
UNLV
Idaho
Idaho State
Oregon

SOUTHERN CONFERENCE 
Appalachian State
Campbell
Citadel
Davidson
Gardner Webb
Presbyterian
Chattanooga
VMI
Bellarmine 
Arkansas State
Alabama
Auburn
Troy State
Kennesaw State
Georgia
Georgia State
Georgia Tech
Kentucky
Eastern Kentucky
Louisiana State
Louisiana Monroe
Louisiana Lafayette
Tulane
Wake Forest
UNC-Greensboro
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas El Paso 
Memphis
Middle Tennessee State
Vanderbilt
Tennessee 
UT-Martin
Furman

BIG 12
Fresno State
Iowa State
North Dakota State
Northern Iowa
Northern Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
South Dakota State
Air Force
Utah Valley
West Virginia
Wyoming
Colorado
Colorado State
Kansas
Kansas State
Denver
North Dakota
Montana 
Montana State
South Dakota
Marshall
Utah
Utah State
Southern Utah
Brigham Young
Weber State
Tulsa
Eastern Washington
Gonzaga
New Mexico
New Mexico State
Fordham
Canisius 

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